I think I read somewhere that Jeff has no plans to ever work with Robbi again but still plays with Richard now and then to work on music. Maybe they fell out?

this info has been taken from the ever brilliant www.Robbirobb.com site. at least you know what the others are getting up to.

Robbi and Amrita were / are busy recording a new Amritakripa record. When Tribe toured Germany and Austria, Amrita told me that the new album will be a bit straighter and forward so folks can dance to the sounds .. a bit more Africa meets chants. I'm really interested in the new tracks!

Richard Stuverud (the animal behind the drums for Tribe After Tribe and Three Fish) is back in Europe! This time, he's drumming for a rock band from New York called White Light Motorcade supporting The Donnas from September 16th to October 20th.

Thanks!!

Thanks, Laura! Great to know there is still the possibility of Three Fish working together again and releasing new stuff someday. I read the comment from Jeff's interview in Bass Player from a little under a year ago, and based on that, it definitely seemed like 3F was going to be a distant memory. I have no idea what Jeff's relationship with Robbi is like at this point, but yes, I did think they might have had a falling out considering that Jeff's comment on 3F's status was just that the band was "not happening anymore." That didn't sound good at all! *Fingers crossed*, right gang?!

Someone mentioned the collaboration with Doug Pinnick of King's X... I remember when word first broke about that almost three years ago! I get the impression Doug is someone who constantly has multiple projects on the go, and I know Jeff is just now coming off a very busy PJ year, but damn, I hope they make time to finish up those tracks they'd started on!! Seems like we've been waiting on that record forever!

Amy, I've read about how he had problems in the past with Mark and Greg during Green River and MLB, respectively, but if I think it's important to consider how young he was then. I think he's a very different guy now than he was in those bands -- Hell, I think he's also matured greatly since the days of storming out during the making of No Code.

From what I've gathered, when Jeff was in his early-to-mid 20s, he was a little more into being the focus of attention, making sure he played a prominent role, and -- if I dare say so -- I think at times he was fairly full of himself. For instance, I've heard about Green River once wanting to cover a Stooges track, but the idea fell apart when Jeff allegedly refused to play the bassline because it was "too simple." I think this kind of attitude was la little ess apparent in MLB, and certainly less apparent with the startup of Pearl Jam. But even so, if you compare the Jeff of early '90s PJ to the Jeff we know today, again, I think there's been a definite "scaling down" of the ego... IMHO, he's much more mature than he used to be, and not only that, I think he realizes how unproductive some of his ways of the past might have been. Just the little notation in the "Brother" explanation from Lost Dogs ("What a ****ing baby I was!") shows evidence of that, I feel. Further, I think we can all hear the change musically as well. Listen to Green River and you hear Jeff kind of overindulging (a la Iron Maiden), Mother Love Bone has that serious sloppy funk sound going on, early PJ has Jeff playing with a lot of force and volume with the 12-string, whereas as the years have gone on, he's become much more of a subtle, minimalist player and has learned to serve the song. This isn't to say that I don't love what he's done all through his career or that I think he's been any more of a "rock star jerk" than anyone else during his career -- no way. Again, I think it's all a matter of maturity. A quote that comes to mind: "Sometimes I don't need to be doing anything but hitting one note on the one, and if that's what the song needs at that point, it makes me happier than playing a thousand notes by myself." - JA, Bass Player, Aug. '98. Incidentally, I recommend tracking down the two Bass Player interviews Jeff did with Karl Coryat in 1994 and 1998 -- I think they are excellent at conveying how far he seems to have come as a musician and a person.

Ahh, pardon my rambling and speculating, but I think you all understand what I'm getting at!

Hello pjamaholic,
Pretty much everything as been said, I'll just add some detail. Yes, they HAVE been working on some stuff. Seems like it's been put on ice 'cause the last time I heard-read about it was early in the Riot tour. Has Jeff gotten into a dispute?!?!

I got the following from:

http://www.kramerskorner.com/kingsx/words/profiles/pearljam.htm

Pearl Jam Meet King's X
Old friends finally roll tape on collaboration

After fifteen years of talking the talk, Pearl Jam bassist Jeff Ament and King's X frontman Doug Pinnick are collaborating on a project they hope to finish this year.

Ament and Pinnick met in 1988 when Ament was a member of the groundbreaking Seattle grunge act Mother Love Bone. But according to Ament, they got together for the first time "a little over a year ago," when, along with drummer Richard Stuverud, they recorded ten songs in one week.

"We just locked ourselves up in Montana in Jeff's house and wrote music," says Pinnick. Pinnick describes the sounds as "a little mellower, not as heavy" as King's X, and "atmospheric" and "Pearl Jam-ish."

"We had talked about making music together often," says Ament. "When our schedules free up, we will continue with the project." The bassist is currently on tour with Pearl Jam, with dates set through at least mid-July.

King's X are also on tour, behind Black Like Sunday, which features songs the band wrote as many as twenty years ago. "We decided to take songs we played way before we were signed, songs we just loved, and put them on an album," Pinnick says. "They're the same songs, but they're done the way we do things now, fifteen years later."

CHRISTINA FUOCO
(May 22, 2003)

And I got the following exerpt from:

http://www.kramerskorner.com/kingsx/words/interviews/doug-metaledge.htm

Katherine Turman: I understand you're doing side projects, including playing with Jeff Ament from Pearl Jam on one recording.

Doug Pinnick: Robbi, the lead singer from Tribe After Tribe [former King's X labelmates on Megaforce], has something going. He wanted me to be on the record, and Jeff too. He called, I flew to L.A. and hung out for a week and just did it.
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I too believe that the Robb-Ament collaborations went belly up. So so so unfortunate, I just love that trio so much... I read the same snippet that Sarah mentionned and I felt the same.

Now, I do agree to the fact that Jeff seems to have a temper... In so many instances have we read or understood that he's on a short fuse. Like my 2nd favorite 3Fish song. "My Only Foe" Is Self Control... I think that not only his band mates had a taste of his way of dealing with difference of opinion... but a more intimate person had to go with the fury. I get that from the song. When I first heard that song, I felt actually quite uncomfortable, it's like the "remake" of a fight he had with a girlfriend. What I love about that song is that it (self control) upsets him to the point to write this song and sing it... his voice in there... and actually make it public, like a confession. In the break in the song, the way he just moans "my only foe is s-e-l-f c-o-n-t-r-o-l my only foeeeeee... But I also agree with some of you that talk about his maturing. Have you noticed how often he talks about how "good communication" is important? It's a real issue for him. I think that relationships are of crucial importance to him, as he talks about that in about every interview! The photos they put out, he's so low profile now compared to the early '80, often looks to the ground. Yup, the man did change a lot and for the better.

Ok now, I think I went a little overboard here, time to go to bed

Sorry to make another individual post, but I forgot to mention that if anyone has a stereo with a "vocal fader" effect or something that eliminates lead vox, it's interesting to take a listen to "My Only Foe" this way, as Jeff's backing vox will go right to the forefront. It essentially becomes like he's singing lead and if you listen closely, you'll notice that a lot of the lines Robbi sings as "she"'s during the outro, Jeff will sing as "you"'s or "you're"'s.