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To the Toledo Blade, Jeff says: "We're trying to use this opportunity to do our duty as citizens," said Mr. Ament, drinking bottled water and eating a Nutri-Grain bar. "Like Bruce [Springsteen] said the other night: Is what we're doing any worse than what lobbyists do? They get paid for it. We're not even getting paid."

Mr. Ament said that once the show starts, the performers don't harp on political issues.

Read it all here: http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041003/NEWS09/410030359/-1/NEWS

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Does anyone else find it hilarious the way the writer mentioned what they were eating and drinking?! Then again, is anyone really surprised at Jeff's choice of backstage food and beverage?! 


Speaking of which, updated to reflect the Riot Act tour (as I'm sure everyone here saw the version from '98 that used to be online): http://www.thesmokinggun.com/backstagetour/jampearl/pearl_jam_1.html  Actually, I have a list of backstage requirements circa the Vitalogy era written down in a booklet somewhere. I got the list from a book on "rock star catering", written by two people who prepare riders for a living. In the three documents I've seen, their requirements have hardly changed.


 


 



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Yeah, I do have that document on my computer. What makes me chuckle the most is the 6 pounds carrots, ginseng and ginger root and other veggies and fruits... to pass trough the JUICER!!! Now we know the secret why PJ is in such shape and always kicking ass when they play live!!! Good lesson for all the punk heads and rockers around! Stamina! Here I come! Hahahahaha!

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All hail the juicer!


Incidentally, I was thinking this morning about Jeff's quote, "Is what we're doing any worse than what lobbyists do?"... While I don't want to open up a big can o' worms here, I'm curious as to what the CRB crew's take is on Pearl Jam's involvement in (and apparent instigation of) the Vote For Change tour...


I've read interviews in which Stone comes out as being definitively for Kerry, Matt and Jeff pay Kerry lip service in the quote mentioned in this thread, and from what I've read, Ed's seems to be the least behind Kerry out of all of them. However, I feel that, on the whole, Pearl Jam and some of the artists on the tour are focused more so on getting Bush out of office versus getting Kerry in, if that makes sense. And I believe the tour itself is more Anti-Bush than Pro-Kerry in spirit.


Personally, I find it sad that people are almost having to vote for the "lesser of two evils", or that a full tour (of varying implicit support for Kerry) is having to be done in order to push people to vote for this "lesser of two evils".


Does it bother you that PJ is putting support behind Kerry in this case -- when they may not be as passionate about him as they were Nader in 2000 for example -- and possibly, by extension, causing other people to vote for him as well?


Thoughts?



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I have questioned myself about that issue. Trying to picture who could be the Johnny Ramone of Pearl Jam, I that were ever possible, I even thought Jeff sounded like a "swing state" himself sometimes, although I seriously doubt that any member of the band might be a Republican. But I came to understand why I felt that way, I don't think like that anymore. You'll see below.

I think that it's a classic case of "vote against" rather than a "vote for", it's about getting GWB out of office. Just like in Canada not too long ago, lots of people just wanting to avoid having Harper as Prime. But the reason why none of the PJ members are openly supportive of Kerry, or any candidate for that matter, might be lying in the lines Stone spoke to OrlandoCityBeat.com:

"Due to campaign finance laws, we can't raise money to register voters and support Kerry at the same time."
Read it here: http://www.orlandocitybeat.com/citybeat/music/ocb-music-pearljam100804.story

I'm trying to picture myself member of a band, being a Republican and playing Bush Leaguer every other night with passion and conviction... Nahhh! If I were part of a band that stongly supports something I'm totally against, it would create a lot of friction, inside my own mind as well as with the members supporting that I despise. I wouldn't remain a member of that band for long.

Too bad there are only two poles to that (and sadly to all of them) election. There is a dangerous mind that should never have gotten into a position of power to start with, that's the sadest part of the story. I think PJ is supportive of change for the better, and I don't think that anyone in the band is enthusiastic about the November election, and I'm pretty sure they will all vote to get GWB out . Well, these are my two cents.

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I agree with pretty much everything you said, monoxyde... You also get bonus points for your cognizance of our political situation up here in the land of the Maple Leaf... 'Cause really, if you're in Canada, you'll soon note that the Liberals (our equivalent of the U.S. Democratic party), though in power, aren't everyone's favourite people, and they only earned a minority government. All I have to say is thank god for the varied representation from other parties within the House of Commons!


With regards to Pearl Jam's political allegiances, Stone has been the only one I've seen/heard from making a fairly strong endorsement of Kerry. In terms of who in PJ might have Republican leanings, if at all, I recall it being said that they're all conservative to some extent, as everyone on the planet is in some regard, but in terms of any kind of specific nod to philosophically aligning with the Right, there's a funny recent quote from Stone that sticks out in my mind, where he half-jokingly calls himself "probably the most Republican guy in Pearl Jam"!


Interestingly enough, I don't know if anyone on these Boards made it to any of the September and October shows, but in Boston, they were selling buttons at the merchandise stand featuring a picture of Dubya painted up a la KISS and a slogan of "Kerry is Less Scary".



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Found out about this through the Bugs mailinglist, originally forwarded from a message on amp-j:


http://www.vote2stopbush.com/2000.html


We, the undersigned, were selected by Ralph Nader to be members of his 113-person national "Nader 2000 Citizens Committee." This year, we urge support for Kerry/Edwards in all "swing states," even while we strongly disagree with Kerry's policies on Iraq and other issues. For people seeking progressive social change in the United States, removing George W. Bush from office should be the top priority in the 2004 presidential election. Progressive votes for John Kerry in swing states may prove decisive in attaining this vital goal.



  • David Barsamian, Author, Radio Interviewer
  • Juliette Beck, California Citizens for Fair Trade
  • Thomas Berry, Author, Dream of the Earth
  • Wendell Berry, Farmer and Writer
  • Norman Birnbaum, Author and Educator
  • Grace Lee Boggs, Detroit Activist and Writer
  • Blase Bonpane, Office of the Americas
  • Theresa Bonpane, Office of the Americas
  • Eric Brakken, Former Staffer, United Students Against Sweatshops
  • Ira Byock, Palliative Care Physician, Author of Dying Well
  • Edgar Cahn, Founder of Time Banking
  • John Cavanagh, Director of Institute for Policy Studies
  • Noam Chomsky, Author and Professor at MIT
  • Steve Cobble, Strategist, Jackson '88, Nader '00, Kucinich '04
  • Ben Cohen, Co-founder of Ben & Jerry's
  • Peter Coyote, Actor and Writer
  • Ronnie Cummins, Director of Organic Consumers Association
  • Herman Daly, Professor at University of Maryland
  • Iris DeMent, Musician/Songwriter
  • Phil Donahue, Former Talk Show Host
  • Mark Dowie, Journalist, Former Editor/Publisher of Mother Jones
  • Barbara Dudley, Former President, Greenpeace and National Lawyers Guild
  • Ronnie Dugger, Co-founder of Alliance for Democracy
  • Barbara Ehrenreich, Political Essayist and Social Critic
  • Richard Falk, Center of International Studies, Princeton University
  • Jim Goodman, Organic Dairy Farmer
  • Rebecca Goodman, Organic Dairy Farmer
  • Doris (Granny D) Haddock, Senate Candidate, Reform Activist
  • Paul Hawken, Author, Economist
  • Randy Hayes, Founder, Rainforest Action Network and Director of Sustainability, City of Oakland
  • Jim Hightower, Author and Commentator
  • Wes Jackson, The Land Institute
  • David Kairys, Law Professor at Temple University and Author
  • Ynestra King, Ecofeminist Writer/Activist
  • John Kinsman, Family Farm Defenders
  • Philip M. Klasky, Co-director, Bay Area Nuclear Waste Coalition
  • David Korten, Author of When Corporations Rule the World
  • Frances Korten, Director of Positive Futures Network
  • Saul Landau, California State Polytechnic University
  • Rabbi Michael Lerner, The Tikkun Community
  • Theodore Lowi, Political Scientist, Author
  • Howard Lyman, Former Rancher, Vegetarian Activist
  • Joanna Macy, Author and Scholar
  • Jerry Mander, President of International Forum on Globalization
  • Manning Marable, Institute for Research in African American Studies, Columbia
  • Redwood Mary, Plight of the Redwoods Campaign
  • Robert McChesney, Professor University of Illinois
  • Peter Montague, Environmental Research Foundation
  • Gus Newport, Former Mayor of Berkeley, California
  • Ruth Ozeki, Novelist
  • Frances Fox Piven, City University of New York
  • Bonnie Raitt, Guitarist/Singer/Songwriter
  • Sheldon Rampton, Co-author of Banana Republicans
  • Marcus Raskin, Co-founder of Institute for Policy Studies
  • Tim Robbins
  • Vicki Robin, New Road Map Foundation
  • Susan Sarandon, Actor and Activist
  • John Schaeffer, Founder of Real Goods Trading Company
  • Michelle Shocked, Musician
  • John Stauber, Co-author of Banana Republicans
  • Andrew Strauss, Professor at Widener University School of Law
  • Charlotte Talberth, Max and Anna Levinson Foundation
  • Meredith Tax, Writer and Human Rights Activist
  • Tom Tomorrow, Cartoonist
  • Sarah van Gelder, Editor of YES! Magazine
  • Eddie Vedder, Musician, Pearl Jam
  • Harvey Wasserman, Author of Harvey Wasserman's History of the US
  • Cornel West, Professor, Author of Democracy Matters
  • Sheldon Wolin, Professor Emeritus, Princeton University
  • Howard Zinn, Historian and Author

Other prominent Nader 2000 supporters endorsing this statement:



  • Medea Benjamin, Code Pink
  • Jackson Browne
  • Jerry Greenfield, Ben & Jerry's Co-founder
  • Bob Harris, Author
  • Norman Solomon, Columnist

Signers endorse this statement as individuals, not as representatives of any group. A frequently updated list of swing states is posted at www.swing04.com.


Journalists

Click here for our news release. For more information or interviews, email info@Vote2StopBush.org.



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  • Tim Robbins

  • Eddie Vedder, Musician, Pearl Jam




 


i read it on Bugs, too... maybe it's just me but i found those two quite funny... tim robbins (no occupation)... the others are actors, novelists, musicians... even his wife... he's just TIM ROBBINS


i also found it cool that PEARL JAM is eddie's occupation... that says a lot... he's the only musician who mentions his band...



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